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OBD poort afgesloten....
« Gepost op: 13 juli 2018, 13:56:53 »
Las op Engels forum dat er een probleem is met het uitezen etc van OBD data via de OBD poort. Bij nieuwe giulia modellen (2018 e.v.) is daar een security gateway tussen geplaats :
introductie datum blijkt februari 2018 te zijn geweest .......

Citaat van: benkay;666912
Direct from MES mouth. Bad news for 2018 onwards owners :

Unfortunately we cannot do anything about the SGW for now. The SGW (Security Gateway) module blocks any diagnostic tool from executing commands on the vehicle (like actuators, procedures and even clearing of DTCs).

This device is connected between the OBD connector and CAN buses of the car. So, any command sent to any module in the car goes through this device.

The only way to unlock full diagnostic possibilities for these cars is by online Witech2 tool. It reads the unlock codes by VIN from Fiats servers and sends the unlock command to the SGW device. So far no one else has access to these unlock codes.

FCA says that this SGW device protects the car from hacking, but we think that they are actually trying to lock all aftermarket tools/service/car modifications.

There are people who are already trying to hack the device and unlock without the codes, but we have to wait and see.

So far the only possibility for diagnostics of these cars is with Witech2 online tool, or by physically bypassing the SGW device (i.e. connecting to CAN behind this device). People have success by connecting to CAN bus at different point (not at OBD connector, but body computer, dashboard or climate control). Some people also reported that they wired a second OBD port which is connected directly to body computer and does not go through this device so that they can play with their own cars.
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jwq
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Re: OBD poort afgesloten....
« Reactie #1 Gepost op: 13 juli 2018, 17:15:02 »
En er zijn blijkbaar al mensen die hier op inspelen......   :great:

https://zautomotive.com/product/bypass-module/
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Re: OBD poort afgesloten....
« Reactie #2 Gepost op: 14 juli 2018, 19:15:10 »
volgens laatste berichten is de SGW module van Bosch, en bevind zich onder het dashboard, naast de stuurkolom
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