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ArjanB
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Olie druk probleem 2.2 JTD
« Gepost op: 18 februari 2025, 20:22:54 »
Blijkbaar een serieus probleem met de olie pomp bij de 2.2 JTD versies

(bron: https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1JxRPvdR3v/)

Another Stelvio 2.2 JTD saved from catastrophic engine damage... The customer noted low oil pressure warnings and came to us for the oil pump seal modification and timing belt renewal. With the sump and the timing belt exposed, we decided to remove the oil pump as well for a check. And we found 4 out of 7 screws loose in there! So we cleaned it, put the screws back in with loctite, mounted the seal modification and filled the engine with fresh 5W30 C3 oil. As an extra, we also placed the anti theft armor. Every thing back together the engine runs nicely and has a very healthy 6+ bar of oil pressure. The customer can now enjoy his nice Stelvio Sprint without any concerns!

Oil pump seal modification can be found here:
https://jtd-performance.com/en/product/oil-pump-seal-modification-jtd-tbi/


Mensen hier die al tegen dit probleem zijn gelopen?
nu: Alfa Romeo 156 SW GTA Q2 | Giulietta 1750 TBi QV TCT | 4C spider
gehad: 145 boxer|156 JTD|147JTD|Giulietta QV|Seicento Abarth |Panda 100HP
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DanaBanana
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Re: Olie druk probleem 2.2 JTD
« Reactie #1 Gepost op: 19 februari 2025, 18:23:28 »
Waaruit concludeer je dat er een serieus probleem is met de oliepomp van deze versies?
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ArjanB
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Re: Olie druk probleem 2.2 JTD
« Reactie #2 Gepost op: 19 februari 2025, 19:40:10 »
Losse schroeven in de pomp is niet best.
1750TBi versies hebben ook last van niet goed aanzuigende oliepomp,  blijkbaar 2.2JTD ook, icm te lage olie druk
nu: Alfa Romeo 156 SW GTA Q2 | Giulietta 1750 TBi QV TCT | 4C spider
gehad: 145 boxer|156 JTD|147JTD|Giulietta QV|Seicento Abarth |Panda 100HP
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Busso
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Re: Olie druk probleem 2.2 JTD
« Reactie #3 Gepost op: 19 februari 2025, 20:27:12 »
Ik heb er afgelopen jaren al meerdere keren over gelezen. Nou ben ik niet op zoek naar een diesel maar ik zou die zwakkele plek als eerste aanpakken als ik een JTD zou kopen. JTD Performance rijdt zelf in een Giulia JTD dus die weet waar hij over praat.
Verder lees ik alleen maar positieve verhalen over de Giulia JTD.
Giulia 2.0T Pack Veloce Squadra Massimo
Ex 147 GTA Rosso, 159 TBI TI Berlina, GT JTD 2006, 147 1.6 2003, Alfa Sud 1.5 1981 en vele andere auto's
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ArjanB
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Re: Olie druk probleem 2.2 JTD
« Reactie #4 Gepost op: 27 februari 2025, 19:13:03 »
Nog een update over lage oliedruk

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/19wCH4cJex/

Another "patient" in. This customer buyed this very nice Stelvio Veloce 2.2 210 in North Italy (PN), imported it to NL but was getting the P06DD error repeatedly. Often this error is caused by a malfunction of the oil pump solenoid, but we decided to take the car for a drive with the Performance Logger plugged in to view and log the oil pressure.
Right from the start we noticed the pressure was lower than usual. We accelerated the car to the point the pump switches to high pressure mode and noticed the oil pressure was missing roughly 2 bar pressure, which is a dangerously low amount. And in the short testdrive also the infamous message "oil pressure too low" appeared on the screen. See the result of the log in the photos below.

So the customer left the car, and we will lower the subframe, remove the oil pan, remove the newly installed timing belt and pulleys, pull the oil pump out and see what is the issue. Most likely a bad pickup seal and probably also an issue with the oil pump.

Another engine disaster was about to happen if the customer continued driving this car. Thanks to the Performance Logger, a useful tool to view and datalog the oil pressure, we can now take appropriate action to get it fixed.

Our message to all Giulia/Stelvio 2.2 owners out there that have oil pressure warnings. Do not ignore these signs, if you want to know what is going on, get yourselves a Performance Logger, plug it in, and check the oil pressure. We can promiss you this tool is worth every € if you think of the damage that can occur. An engine replacement can cost you >10K € easily.
nu: Alfa Romeo 156 SW GTA Q2 | Giulietta 1750 TBi QV TCT | 4C spider
gehad: 145 boxer|156 JTD|147JTD|Giulietta QV|Seicento Abarth |Panda 100HP